Sunday, September 7, 2008

Pay it forward 4 profits

Many of you have probably seeing or heard about Pay it forward for profits. Well, so did I.

I joined “Pay it forward for profits” since I kind of liked the concept. I found that someone had reviewed what the program was about, and how much money was required to actually make money from it. Here is the complete scoop, the program was reviewed on, and there is an interesting very long thread on it, I just copy and pasted the important parts, which is the description of the program, hidden costs, and what is all about.

If you want to try it, sign in only AFTER YOU FINISH READING THIS POST, here is the link:

Again, do not sign in until you have read this entire thread, I did the homework for you; the least you can do is read it, and make up your own mind.

Here is the scoop:

Part 1: Funded Sponsoring (Franchise System) Explained

Part 2: Affiliate Programs
There are 3 Major Parts to the Funded Sponsoring Franchise of Pay-It Forward 4 Profits that you need to set-up:

1. Funded Proposal
Global Domains International: $10/month

2. Secondary Sales
Traffic Oasis: $59.95/month

"Traffic Oasis is a Leads Membership company...THEY DON'T SELL LEADS! They provide exclusive leads to it's members each month. These leads are the best. How do you know they are any good? Because chances are, YOU are one of the Traffic Oasis leads your sponsor received with his/her membership :-) So, all you have to do is invite these leads to your Pay-It Forward 4 Profits website and give away the free membership! Then let the system take over from there!

3. Primary Business for Long Term Wealth
"The 3rd product that you need to be affiliated with is a Primary Network Marketing or Affiliate Business. The main reason we include the opportunity to have a 3rd Affiliate Program is that this will be your bread and butter, long-term residual income business...and YOU CAN CHOOSE to use any business that you feel will help you reach your goals."

Comment: I guess this is really optional since you have already paid $69.99 a month to PIF4P ($10 + $59.99). So if you sign up their MLM, then it is icing on the cake. If you use your existing MLM, it is good for you.

Part 3: Your Auto responder
Where Does Every Single Internet User "Travel To" On a Daily Basis; Their Personal Email Inbox. This is our "Location" in an Internet Business ... Remember, the BEST LOCATION to be on the Internet is in your Prospects Email Inbox.

To be successful as an Internet Marketer (or Network Marketer) you need to:

Build A List == > Build a Relationship and Market To Your List == > Cash Your Checks

Your Auto responder Is The Most Important Tool In Your Internet Marketing Business.

Sign up for Response Magic + Hit Counter for only $17.95/month!

You have 3 websites and 3 individual auto responder email series.
Then you continue to another system.

Fast Start Traffic School

Part 1: Traffic Swarm

Part 2: Co-operative Advertising Program
"With the Co-operative Advertising Pool, you will be able to harness the power of leverage through pooling money with other members to get better results in the advertising, and also you are able to take advantage of an already skilled advertiser in Joel Broughton, as Joel will be running the Google Ad words campaign for the Co-operative advertising pool."

1. Cost is $25 per share; you will receive 5 members per share
2. Payable to: Joel Broughton
3. Be sure to Include Your Full Name, PIF4P's Username, and Your Phone Number, and Number of Shares that you want.
4. Mail To:

Joel Broughton
829 Norwest Road, Suite 104
Kingston, Ontario
K7P 2N3

Part 3: Direct Matches
"Direct Matches is the first in the online business and social networking industry to deploy a multi-matchmaking system that helps people locate everything from business contacts to network marketing professionals. It is the first business and social networking service with a contact management system that operates on a "dynamic basis", where members are able to select from dedicated networking communities."

"You will want to get at least a "Managing IR" membership ($19.95) to be able to get the most out of this tool."
Part 4: Ad Land Pro
You are invited to sign up with a free Ad Land Pro site to create ad. You get some 500 free credits. I don't know what the regular credit cost.
After this, you really get to see the Advanced Internet Marketing Success Guide.
Day 1 - Get to know your new websites
"Pay close attention to what I am about to say...

Referring people directly to your Pay-It-Forward 4 Profits website is more profitable than referring people to the individual company's links.

I'll say it again in highlighted bold. It's that important.

Referring people directly to your Pay-It-Forward 4 Profits website is more profitable than referring people to the individual companies links! (Don't send them to the individual company websites directly)
Now I want you to say this out loud to yourself, just to make sure we've got it:
"I will refer people directly to my Pay It Forward 4 Profits websites because it will be much more profitable for me than if I refer people to the individual company's links."


Why would it be more profitable to refer people to your Pay-It-Forward 4 Profits website than to your GDI, Traffic Oasis or your Primary Business Affiliate links one at a time?

That is a very good question. I'll answer that for you...

First, sending people to your Pay-It-Forward 4 Profits website is more profitable for you because it is a DIRECT RESPONSE website designed to have a very specific, focused purpose. Generate an opt-in and direct them to your member's area! The members’ area is, in fact, a multi-million dollar sales letter that is designed to very effectively inspire your visitor to sign up in 4 of the most lucrative moneymaking programs on the Internet under YOU. This page has been carefully crafted and is extremely effective at making the sales for YOU.
By sending people to your Pay-It-Forward 4 Profits website, you have an extremely high likelihood that they will sign up with you in Global Domains International, Traffic Oasis, your Primary Business, and Success University. Without the Pay-It-Forward 4 Profits website, the possibility of enrolling someone in these 4 programs with you is dramatically reduced. The Internet is a DIRECT RESPONSE environment and to succeed, you must learn to promote DIRECT RESPONSE information websites. This is very, very, very important to understand. If you don't "get it" yet, read the paragraph above again until you DO get it. Your success depends on it."
Day 2 - The Key To Success: You and Your Prospects!

Day 3 - Set up your FREE Traffic Accounts & Start Earning Traffic Credits!

Day 4 - Tell Your Friends, Family & Everyone You Can About Your Website

Day 5 - Setup Your Sig File, Get Involved and Make at Least 5 New Posts Today

Day 6 - Get Instant Access To Over 100 Million People In Less Than 10 Minutes With Google Ad words

DAY 7 - Unleash Your Residual Income Profits!

Day 8 - Newspaper Classified Ads

Day 9 - Fill Your Auto responder And Start Earning Automatic Email Profits

Day 10 - Get Your Own Article Written And Published All Over The Net To Earn Automatic Lifetime Income

Day 11 - Launch Your Own Blog And Attract Free Traffic And Profits For Life

Day 12 - Use Ezine Solo Ads To Pull In Big Auto-Pilot Email Profits

Day 13 - Expand your Forum Presence & Create More Signature Files
Here are the suggested forums:

Day 14 - Start Your Linking Campaign & Drive An Unstoppable Flood Of FREE Traffic To Your Website!

Day 15 - Start Placing Free Pay-Per-Click Advertising

Day 16 - Place Over 200 Million Ads Online Instantly for FREE

Day 17 - Stop Learning and Start Doing!!

Day 18 - Schedule Your Weekly Ezine Solo Ads!

Day 19 - Expand Your Google Ad Words Campaign!

Day 20 - Continue Growing Your Opt-In Email List!

Day 21 - Maintain Your Productive Habits
After skimming over day 1, I lost interest. So here you are, the first brief summary of PIF4P and its initial cost.

Global Domains International: $10/month
Traffic Oasis: $59.95/month
Response Magic + Hit Counter: $17.95/month
"Managing IR" membership: $19.95
Co-operative Advertising Program: $25 per 5 members

This is so far the best MLM that I have seen - no fixed cost (office, factory, storage, etc.) and no variable cost (material, management, employees, etc), just initial marketing production cost and monthly website hosting cost. In addition, each program is linked/tied to other programs.

Again, if after you read the entire article you want to give it a try, here is the link:


blackrain said...

I once was a member of PIF4P, but there were a lot of problems with the system. I will share just a few.

First the creator of the system, Joel likes you to recruit and sign people up on the response magic auto responder. When you do this, beware, because if he gets involved with the next best affiliate program, he will steal members from the list you built.
He did this with me when he joined Streamline Magic and Shaklee.

Second, paid leads do not work very well if at all. With as much money as you put into buying leads, you could be learning real marketing techniques. Good old fashion advertising and targeting your market still works wonders.

Just food for thought, remember I once was a member of this system and learned a great deal from the experience.

J. A. Colon said...

Thank you for the info, I welcome your warnings.

My goal is not so much signing people, (yes, I know, you do not sign people you do not make money), but to open people's eyes to the problems of the systems available and hopefully, they will be careful and make money.